By Diane Dennis
Please note that in California, and other states, filing a lien is allowable only if you properly serve the 20-Day Preliminary Lien Notice.
What to do?
This is where we say thank goodness for (properly served) the 20-day preliminary lien notice!
That's why you still file a lien even though the Owner paid, because the Owner didn't do what he was supposed to do, which was to make sure that you got paid.
He can't say that he didn't know you were owed money, because you have proof (the
proof is explained a bit further on) that he did indeed receive your
20-day preliminary lien notice which told him that you are present on the
job.
There was a subcontractor who didn't get his last two payments. He tried several times to contact the general but he couldn't get an answer or a call back. This was 20+ years ago.
He finally reached out to the Owner of the project. He was nervous to do it but there really wasn't any other way at that time to find out what was going on.
He reached the Owner and come to find out the general had already been paid in full on the project. The sub was realizing that the general had split with his money (turns out he did it to a couple other subs as well).
Through some brief free legal help he found out that because he had done his preliminary lien notice properly, including the copy to the owner, he still had mechanic's lien rights even though the Owner had paid once already.
Ultimately, it's the Owner's responsibility to make sure everyone is paid. Yes the Owner got ripped just like the subs did but he had control over those payments whereas the subs did not.
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No ifs, ands, or buts about it, the preliminary lien notice MUST be mailed out within the time allowed by the law.
Lien rights are often lost due to the mistake of sending a late 20-day preliminary lien notice.
The time-frame varies from state to state, so you must check to see what the requirement is in the state the job is located in.
Couple examples: It's my understanding that in one state the 20-day preliminary lien notice must be processed within 8 days of the first shipment or incurring of labor costs, whichever applies to your situation.
I'm told that a couple other states require that the notice be processed before the first shipment or incurring of labor costs.
No matter which state your company might be located in, you need to
follow the prelim laws for the state that the project is located in.
California contractors and suppliers have up to 20 days after the date that work starts or material is supplied. The
lien statutes in most states must be followed precisely, courts do not
afford much latitude with respect to timelines and compliance with
statutory forms.
For contractors, this means you've got to process and mail the 20-day preliminary lien notice within 20 days of the first day
you either start work or supply material to the project (or place the
material order if it's a special order item).
For
material suppliers, this means within 20 days of the first day you
supply material to the project (or order it if it's a special order
item).
The 20-day preliminary lien notice covers all work, material, etc. for up to 20 days prior to the postmark date on the mailing of the preliminary lien notice.
So,
if you've been on the job for 30 days and are just now sending the
preliminary lien notice, you'll be covered for 20 days back (or from after the first 10 days forward).
You do still want to do the preliminary lien notice even if you're late. If you don't then you won't have lien rights for the balance of the project.
When you send preliminary lien notices you'll want to send it via certified mail *return receipt*.
You're sending the notice via certified mail because you have to have proof of when you sent it. But that doesn't tell you for a fact that it arrived where you sent it to.
When the recipient receives the mail he's required to sign for it before he can have it, but you won't have proof that it was received by the correct person without the return receipt.
When you're in court and the Owner is telling the judge that he didn't get your notice you'll have proof he did because of the return receipt that has his signature, or the signature of his agent.
Maybe even more importantly, you'll know way in advance if the Owner didn't receive it because you won't have the return receipt. That's a red flag that you need to find out what happened to the notice.
Because the Owner has the 20-day preliminary lien notice from you he can't state that he didn't know you were present on the job.
That's why you file the mechanic's lien. Legally you did everything that you could, everything you were supposed to do. Because you made the Owner aware that you were present, the responsibility then shifted to him to make sure you were paid.
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If the address on the Grant Deed is
different than the address on the prelim information given to us by the
General Contractor, who do we send it to?
The Who, What, When, Where, Why, and How - not necessarily in that order :o)
Just because you missed the deadline doesn't mean that all is lost!
A preliminary lien notice won't do you any good if they don't go to the correct entities.
Unfortunately, a prelim is required to file a lien, even if you're a supplier.
Arizona requires preliminary liens prior to mechanic's liens.
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Do you have to do a preliminary notice for change orders?
I am an architect who is having difficulty with the final payment of fees...
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The potential ramifications of using one preliminary notice for several locations when they're all under the same contract
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Make sure the $ amount on the prelim is as accurate as possible
Why you should serve the owner with a prelim even if he posts a notice of non-responsibility
Can the signature on a preliminary notice be a copy/fax or must it be 'wet'/original?
Is it better to amend the notice, or issue a new one?
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When working in Arizona be sure to timely serve the preliminary notice *to the correct parties* or there could be trouble
Preliminary liens can help save you from being 'stiffed' on the job!
Research property records when doing your preliminary notices
Thoughts about using a company that handles your preliminary notices for you
A detailed step-by-step explanation of how to process preliminary notices
Tracking the paperwork, the proof of service, and the USPS documents for prelims
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Make sure your prelims go to the correct entities
Mishandling of, or not processing, preliminary liens is one of the top 10 mistakes contractors make
At one time the California preliminary notice form was mandated by California to be titled "20-Day
Preliminary Notice Form" (exactly, word for word). The California mandate has since changed and
the form is now known as the "Preliminary Notice Form" (again, exactly, word for word). Make sure what your state requires and make sure your forms are valid.
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